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A new to me but old laptop

I’ve been using an older Lenovo Thinkpad T460p laptop that I bought brand new May 2017 for $2210 USD with a pretty impressive discount for the time. The Thinkpad T460p released April 2016 over a year earlier from when I bought it. I over bought on the CPU/processor and bought extra power adapters and batteries upfront. It has been a great laptop but starting to show its age and I’ve been looking for a new laptop with a little more pep. Older USB is starting to be limiting and I’d like to go beyond 32Gb RAM.

Lenovo ThinkPad T460p

Processor                   Intel Core i7-6820HQ processor (8MB Cache, Up to 3.6 Ghz)
Operating System            Windows 10 Pro 64
Operating System Language   Windows 10 Pro 64 English
Display                     14.0 WQHD(2560 x 1440) IPS Non-Touch
Graphics                    NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB
Memory                      32GB(16+16) DDR4 2133MHz SoDIMM
Camera                      720p HD Camera
Keyboard                    Keyboard Backlit - English
Pointing Device             UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
Security Chip               Software TPM Enabled
First Hard Drive            500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm, 2.5", SATA3
System Expansion Slots      Smart Card Reader
Battery                     ThinkPad Battery 6 cell Li-Ion (72Wh) Cyl HC Rear
                            ThinkPad Battery 68+ 6.6 Ah Notebook Battery
Power Cord                  135W AC Adapter (2pin) - US
                            90W AC Adapter (Slim Tip) - power adapter - 90 Watt
Wireless                    Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC(2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro
Integrated Mobile Broadband Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable
Display Panel               T460p WQHD IPS AG WW PAINT
Language Pack               Publication - English
Warranty                    3 Year Depot or Carry-in

As I looked around, nothing under $4000-$5000 USD seemed to fit the bill once I added all the features and limitations. MacBook Pro and several WinTel laptops were in the running but nothing seemed like a good fit. And all the newer laptops seem to have soldered memory or limitations on future upgrades built into them. Add to that my interest in LLM and AI/ML which has me thinking about buying a used server or high-end workstation with multiple GPUs that will cost in the multiple $1000’s USD, I figure I should economize on my development laptop.

So that puts me browsing in the used market space on eBay and Craigslist.

A brief perusal brought the Lenovo Thinkpad T480 to my attention. The T480 as a January 2018 release is still an upgrade of my existing T460p that released in early 2016. I have a good bit of experience disassembling the base T-series platform as a bonus. The T480 are coming off support for large corporations and US Federal contracts. That brings the price way down in the used market.

Some key features are the T480 have an Intel i5 or i7 options in a Gen 8 CPU with and without a Nvidia GPU. It is the last generation of the T-series with removable batteries and has dual SODIMMs not soldered to the motherboard if you stay away from the slimline Ts-series.

Lenovo ThinkPad T480 ebay listing

Screen Size                 14 in
Graphics Processing Type    Dedicated Graphics
RAM Size                    32 GB
Color                       Black
SSD Capacity                256 GB
Most Suitable For           Casual Computing, Graphic Design, Workstation
GPU                         Intel's UHD Graphics 620 IGP
                            NVIDIA GeForce MX150
Processor Speed             1.80 GHz
Brand                       Lenovo
Series                      ThinkPad
Type                        Mobile Workstation
Maximum Resolution          1920 x 1080
Model                       Lenovo ThinkPad T480
Connectivity                Gigabit Ethernet, HDMI, USB 3.0, USB 3.1, USB-C, SD Card Slot,
                            Thunderbolt, SmartCard Reader
Operating System            Windows 10
Features                    10/100 LAN Card, Backlit Keyboard, Bluetooth, Built-in Microphone,
                            Built-in Webcam, Multi-Touch Trackpad, Touchscreen, Widescreen Display, Wi-Fi
Hard Drive Capacity         256 GB
Storage Type                SSD (Solid State Drive)
Processor                   Intel Core i7 Processor 8550U CPU: 1.8GHz (8Mb Cache, up to 4.00 Ghz)
Operating System            Windows 10 Pro 64
Display                     14.0" 1920x1080
Graphics                    Intel's UHD Graphics 620 IGP
                            NVIDIA GeForce MX150
Memory                      64GB(32+32) DDR4 2400MHz SoDIMM
Camera                      ???720p HD Camera
Keyboard                    Keyboard backlit - English
Pointing Device             TrackPoint and TouchPad with Fingerprint Reader
Security Chip               ???Software TPM Enabled
First Hard Drive            250GB Hard Disk Drive, SSD, 2.5", SATA3
System Expansion Slots      ???Smart Card Reader
Battery                     ???ThinkPad Battery 6 cell Li-Ion (72Wh) Cyl HC Rear
                            ???ThinkPad Battery 68+ 6.6 Ah Notebook Battery
Power Cord                  ???135W AC Adapter (2pin) - US
Wireless                    ???Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC(2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro
Integrated Mobile Broadband ???Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable
Display Panel               ???T460p WQHD IPS AG WW PAINT
Warranty                    ???

So I’m getting the following components used and new.

Vendor New Price Description
eBay Used $350 Lenovo ThinkPad T480 i7 32GB 256 SSD NVIDIA MX150 with power cord and docking station
eBay New $20 SSD HDD NVMe M.2 Adapter Caddy & cable 01AX994 For Lenovo ThinkPad T470 T480
Amazon New $15 USB C to HDMI with PD Charger Adapter
Amazon New $100 Elite DDR4 64GB Kit (2 x 32GB) - TED464G3200C22DC-S01
Amazon New $20 Intel AX210 IEEE 802.11ax Bluetooth 5.2 Tri Band Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Combo Adapter
Amazon New $165 Crucial P3 4TB PCIe Gen3 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, up to 3500MB/s - CT4000P3SSD8
- $670 Total  

List of stuff to do to my T480

List of stuff I could do to my T480

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